tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post3684957300318700700..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: Marketing Mondays: The Negative ReviewUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-16457024012918099062009-09-06T09:58:53.508-04:002009-09-06T09:58:53.508-04:00And then there are those who might like to have an...And then there are those who might like to have any mention of their work in hard or soft print and are tired of counting anonymous rejection letters. The art business is a hard game and the love of making the work has to prevail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-46487441265159943882009-09-03T12:29:25.029-04:002009-09-03T12:29:25.029-04:00What a dreadful experience, Eva. If ever there was...What a dreadful experience, Eva. If ever there was a reason to write a letter to the editor, that would be it. It's one thing to be pissed off if a critic says negative things about yourt work, but when you are misquoted--especially when it can have political reverberations--defintely do it. <br /><br />You could also have pressed the editor for a correction. (The editor would check with the Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-36029166800235183592009-09-03T11:24:24.832-04:002009-09-03T11:24:24.832-04:00Well, you asked "Did it affect the relationsh...Well, you asked "Did it affect the relationship with your dealer?" Yes. The journalist completely misquoted me, said I hated the local museum, which was not true at all. My dealer has a big relationship with the museum. That's just one part of it. Many people do not remember that, but he does. And what was the point of it anyway? ...the writer had his own axe to grind with the Evahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526963554623770078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-20506706129389910112009-09-02T22:53:53.551-04:002009-09-02T22:53:53.551-04:00An informed negative review is worth its weight in...An informed negative review is worth its weight in gold. Kalm says.<br />An uninformed negative review is uninformed, thus worthless.phoning in the concretehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07897389537332497420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-949920868917178202009-09-02T11:45:53.793-04:002009-09-02T11:45:53.793-04:00You are right that the exhibition got a lot of neg...You are right that the exhibition got a lot of negative press, Jane.<br /><br />The big difference with Chicago is that she had tons of support from the feminist community. Indeed, she had tons of free labor from the feminist community. So even if the rest of the world panned her project, she was supported all the way. <br /><br />And now, BTW, Elizabeth Sackler has funded an antire feminist wingJoanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-83868713106783711552009-09-02T10:52:26.450-04:002009-09-02T10:52:26.450-04:00Probably one of the best examples of "Negativ...Probably one of the best examples of "Negative Reviews" I can think of, is Judy Chicago and The Dinner Party. This is a piece that has become a critical and historical pivot-point and landmark in art, art history, and the women's movement, yet if you go back and look at how it was reviewed in the initial exhibitions you will find unflattering, unfavorable and just plain negative Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06108770813588197855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-88573880944203156082009-09-02T00:24:06.003-04:002009-09-02T00:24:06.003-04:00W, Vogue and VF profile only celebrity artists. It...W, Vogue and VF profile only celebrity artists. It's the lifestyles of the rich and famous--Brice Marden's six homes, Cindy Sherman's loft, and so forth. Lesser known artists won't get that type of attention. Local and regional publications do sometimes feature local and regional artists. The stories may help--at least in terms of attracting collectors--and I don't think they Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-71291129685346861032009-09-01T22:37:54.466-04:002009-09-01T22:37:54.466-04:00Thanks Stephanie and Anonymous commenter. Re: Eva...Thanks Stephanie and Anonymous commenter. Re: Eva... it is amazing to me the number of fashion magazines who will profile artists (like they are some kind of celebrity maing brnad endorsements) for example Interview, W magazine, Vogue, Vanity Fair which can't hurt, can it, to get that kind of blue chip attention for your clothes along with a photo about your art? I know it seems inverted Donna Dodsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068704959733467515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-88077033074808188102009-09-01T22:17:07.625-04:002009-09-01T22:17:07.625-04:00LOL You are right Joanne, yesterday after reading...LOL You are right Joanne, yesterday after reading the discussion I went immediately to Donna's website and was very impressed. <br />Clearly show any news is better than no news.Stephanie Sachshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377131627540380362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-27562786816103066382009-09-01T20:32:15.378-04:002009-09-01T20:32:15.378-04:00When I was just an artist - only an artist, I shou...When I was just an artist - <i>only</i> an artist, I should say - I didn't pay that much attention to reviews or their impact. But when I started running a gallery and became the one to write the press release, then I started paying attention. Because I could watch how the efforts amounted to something - or didn't.<br /><br />I think if the critic is invested and knows their stuff, the Evahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526963554623770078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-17538628153058690552009-09-01T20:03:51.189-04:002009-09-01T20:03:51.189-04:00Thanks J Bills and Joanne! I am impressed with th...Thanks J Bills and Joanne! I am impressed with the blog as a medium for critical dialogue and the connectivity of the readership involved who are reading/commenting. It is a different animal than print media and much more interactive/participatory. It is an interesting question, and parallel to Ed Winkleman's blog question, what is worth arguing about, in the new economy where your Donna Dodsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068704959733467515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-11402807615412273232009-09-01T16:07:56.385-04:002009-09-01T16:07:56.385-04:00After reading the review from Bill I can see his p...After reading the review from Bill I can see his point, although, he probably was taking as base for his review this piece alone. <br />After checking Donna's work I think that the piece fitted correctly on her body of work and I appreciated it even more.<br /><br />This week an exhibition opened and I am participating on it. While I was checking the exhibition and taking pictures of this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-57286195644148894162009-09-01T12:01:29.874-04:002009-09-01T12:01:29.874-04:00J Bills says: "Any discussion or criticism is...J Bills says: "Any discussion or criticism is better than none at all."<br /><br />Maybe. Sometimes. (Readers, we're talking here about JT Kirkland's review project on his Thinking About Art blog [see my sidebar for link]. The idea was for artists to review other artists, thus giving them feedback and possibly a usable review of their work.) <br /><br />In the case of your Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-68708044637788212732009-09-01T11:46:11.421-04:002009-09-01T11:46:11.421-04:00Joanne, you are right that good art criticism is o...Joanne, you are right that good art criticism is often the kind that's best informed. However, I do believe there is value in the uninformed review, even a negative one. Artists are prone to isolation, not getting out of their head, and often unable to look at their work objectively. They need strangers to look at their work and say what comes to mind, simply to evaluate if your message is J Billshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134696603985018512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-76879424272742945682009-09-01T09:44:03.077-04:002009-09-01T09:44:03.077-04:00A great bad review is better than a so-so okay rev...A great bad review is better than a so-so okay review. Our beloved Phil Guston is probably remembered more for the brutal review Hilton Kramer wrote called “A Mandarin Masquerading as a Stumble Bum” than any of the dozens of positive reviews he received (bet you can’t name one off hand). If an artist can’t handle a negative review maybe they shouldn’t be exhibiting, they should just stay in thekalm jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12332427203855310614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-11402350167601946272009-09-01T00:32:50.626-04:002009-09-01T00:32:50.626-04:00One of the worst reviews I ever got said that my w...One of the worst reviews I ever got said that my work was about motherhood. Motherhood was about the farthest thing from my mind (and my work) and I couldn't understand how this reviewer had gotten such a bad take on what I was trying to say. Then I decided that perhaps my work was too ironic for him to get it and remembered advice that you should never use irony or sarcasm when dealing with Nancy Natalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325421420384484035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-13050217688762994562009-08-31T19:35:01.857-04:002009-08-31T19:35:01.857-04:00I remember that review, Donna, and it seems to me ...I remember that review, Donna, and it seems to me that it was not so much criticism as a gut-reaction "I don't like it." While it seemed to be honest from that person's point of view, it was not informed by any understanding of your oeuvre. Professional critics--and even those of us with points of view who write and think critically but aren't critics--do their homework to Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-27645514739492976562009-08-31T17:26:47.666-04:002009-08-31T17:26:47.666-04:00I got a negative review online last april that was...I got a negative review online last april that was part of the 'artists review artists' on Thinking about art blog- http://thinkingaboutart.blogs.com/art/2009/04/artists-review-artists-james-bills-on-donna-dodson.html and it stung a bit but i posted a response to the review and i got alot of support from my fans online and i sold the piece he reviewed last year- and picked up 2 new Donna Dodsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068704959733467515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-15059955542081644532009-08-31T14:35:36.212-04:002009-08-31T14:35:36.212-04:00Not me. They're blather.Not me. They're blather.Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-19607157782281811822009-08-31T14:03:06.915-04:002009-08-31T14:03:06.915-04:00does anyone want to see Zip's comments, wherev...does anyone want to see Zip's comments, wherever they might be?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-90630585979084912262009-08-31T13:21:58.853-04:002009-08-31T13:21:58.853-04:00I have always felt that if I am going to enjoy the...I have always felt that if I am going to enjoy the positive reviews, I must also consider the negative ones.<br /><br />That said, even though I do not love the negative ones, the positive remarks mess with my head much more. A negative review make me think much more about what I am doing and why. A positive one can inflate my ego and I tend to coast on how awesome I must be, which of course is aTracy Helgesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07510044613771862211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-62758100331734383102009-08-31T12:42:34.489-04:002009-08-31T12:42:34.489-04:00Zip,
I have to see you on Ed's blog but I don&...Zip,<br />I have to see you on Ed's blog but I don't have to see you here.Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-24028681797220368402009-08-31T12:37:06.087-04:002009-08-31T12:37:06.087-04:00All this talk of critical dscrimination reminds me...All this talk of critical dscrimination reminds me I saw a new one on the subway - dude gets on and holds up a laminated (or maybe just taped) sign made of photocopies with hand lettering.<br /><br />The man yelled in a strident angry voice: "You see this girl? She was shot dead three days ago on the corner" he went on "I need 17 dollars for flowers for her funeral"<br /><br /zipthwunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761727194113640578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-89698053915536045032009-08-31T12:03:40.496-04:002009-08-31T12:03:40.496-04:00As Sharon notes, and as Ed himself does in the pos...As Sharon notes, and as Ed himself does in the post just above this, something's in the air. I love when that happens. Take a look: http://edwardwinkleman.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html <br /><br />I also want to add a personal story. In 2007 I had a solo show at OK Harris, small paintings from my Silk Road series. It got two reviews. One was a favorable review in The New York Sun; the Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-59433590539994581262009-08-31T11:50:53.474-04:002009-08-31T11:50:53.474-04:00wow...something in the air, this morning, obviousl...wow...something in the air, this morning, obviously. ;-)Edward_https://www.blogger.com/profile/00110804435781673357noreply@blogger.com