tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post8356436146751017104..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: Marketing Mondays: GrantsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-70023103352353750692012-10-28T21:44:36.725-04:002012-10-28T21:44:36.725-04:00I'd like to vent about this post. It reinforce...I'd like to vent about this post. It reinforces all of the divisiveness that existed in NY in the 1980s and 90s...it is small thinking, and I am so disappointed to see the stereotypes reinforced--as if being an artist necessitates poverty: this is pernicious and outdated thinking. There are so many artists who do have resources who do so much for others, ie in Bushwick, etc.; do we really Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-78395947963915182642012-10-27T10:05:55.141-04:002012-10-27T10:05:55.141-04:00I have not applied for grants because I can suppor...I have not applied for grants because I can support myself.<br /><br />I'm an oddity for a painter and a Democrat because I don't believe in art grants for the reasons stated here and the following reason:<br /><br />Note: I am posting Anonomous because I want to report this on going situation without reprisal.<br /><br />I know of a well known artist, currently, who is coasting these Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-25462876357359278672012-10-25T11:31:30.881-04:002012-10-25T11:31:30.881-04:00For years I thought that applying for grants was a...For years I thought that applying for grants was a pain-in-the-etc and also, that only the artists who got on "the list" were the ones who got them. <br />Years past and I kept making work and building the resume. Then last year someone egged me on to apply for something and I did it and I got it. You saw the show, Joanne - the grants funded <i>Judd Women Targets</i> at frosch & Evahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526963554623770078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-383619550444223162012-10-24T10:21:07.940-04:002012-10-24T10:21:07.940-04:00Anon 9:31--
Famous artists and professors aside f...Anon 9:31--<br /><br />Famous artists and professors aside for the moment, for the studio artists who receive grants regularly, they are not a pain in the "somewhere." They help provide a living to those who are doing difficult, perhaps commercially unsalable work. Though Mr. Romney suggests we should "ask our parents" for a loan, for many artists that is not remotely Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-32681568701126936002012-10-24T09:31:43.494-04:002012-10-24T09:31:43.494-04:00I learned so much from this - especially your 2:57...I learned so much from this - especially your 2:57 comments.<br /><br />Sounds like grants are just another pain in the somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-10130000799597873762012-10-24T09:26:58.858-04:002012-10-24T09:26:58.858-04:00One comment - if I made 50K a year I would be rich...One comment - if I made 50K a year I would be rich (by my own standards). As an adjunct, I make about $15-20. I know, without a doubt, I work more hours than the 50K professors yet we have the same credentials.<br /><br />It's a matter of perspective.Kaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-23886229492661331382012-10-24T01:00:02.221-04:002012-10-24T01:00:02.221-04:00Anonymouse:
It's easy to be assertive and sa...Anonymouse: <br /><br />It's easy to be assertive and say "Stop the divisive talk" while hiding behind your curtain of anonymity, isn't it? <br /><br />Reread my comments and you'll see that I acknowledge the shades of gray. Finances are relative. But I can tell you that the artist who wrote the question which incited this post was looking at a now blue-chip artist who had Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-78174805129255032062012-10-24T00:28:11.625-04:002012-10-24T00:28:11.625-04:00I'm not terribly well-off by the 1% standard, ...I'm not terribly well-off by the 1% standard, or even the 10% standard! But I am comfortable compared to many around the world.<br />I have been awarded grants, prizes, exhibitions, and other forms of professional recognition. My studio practice is my sole income and has been for many, many years.<br />Most art professors I know work 30+ hours a week teaching for about $50K a year. That Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-47426510429542944872012-10-23T17:15:38.476-04:002012-10-23T17:15:38.476-04:00I learned much too late from a professor friend th...I learned much too late from a professor friend that those that have received grants in the past will receive them again. I always worked some kind of job to support myself while making art so I didn't apply for grants. For me this falls into that - it's always something - category. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-30854030823046842552012-10-22T18:18:19.915-04:002012-10-22T18:18:19.915-04:00I've never applied for a grant thinking that t...I've never applied for a grant thinking that they are looking for people with art school and this sort of credentials......as well as need. Although I don't have a lot of money,I thought they were for real need... or awards for great work. I see names of people receiving these grants that seem to have more than I do. Shame on me for never learning more about grant-writing.CMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05946336431994312623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-27676436683549234882012-10-22T17:10:19.273-04:002012-10-22T17:10:19.273-04:00Ashbery’s first book, Some Trees (1956) won the Ya...Ashbery’s first book, Some Trees (1956) won the Yale Younger Poets Prize. The competition was judged by W.H. Auden, who famously confessed later that he hadn’t understood a word of the winning manuscript. Auden had received the applicants and was not impressed by any of them. He set the task aside and went to Europe. The committeee asked what was happening to the award and Auden suggested that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-60397868512717208002012-10-22T16:31:43.376-04:002012-10-22T16:31:43.376-04:00I think it's also worth noting that some of th...I think it's also worth noting that some of these bigger name artists/professors have assistants or interns who will jump through the hoops for them. It's easy when you don't have to fill out all the paperwork and get together everything for the application. Or even their galleries could be helping out with this as well. More resources are more resources, for anyone.hydeordiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17238711741397150977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-50732008422459625832012-10-22T16:31:12.805-04:002012-10-22T16:31:12.805-04:00I think it's also worth noting that some of th...I think it's also worth noting that some of these bigger name artists/professors have assistants or interns who will jump through the hoops for them. It's easy when you don't have to fill out all the paperwork and get together everything for the application. Or even their galleries could be helping out with this as well. More resources are more resources, for anyone.hydeordiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17238711741397150977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-11441311369803759012012-10-22T14:57:58.930-04:002012-10-22T14:57:58.930-04:00Thanks, everyone, for commenting.
Anon 2:29,I par...Thanks, everyone, for commenting.<br /><br />Anon 2:29,I particularly want to respond to yours. When I had my day job in publishing I never applied for grants because I felt that if I received one I would be taking money away from someone who really needed it. Very noble of me, right?<br /><br />But here's the problem: Because I never applied, I never built up any "grant cred." So Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-20250795306442273672012-10-22T14:29:54.333-04:002012-10-22T14:29:54.333-04:00I think it stinks, actually. I see winners of our ...I think it stinks, actually. I see winners of our state arts grants and I usually see the professors I used to study under. Sure, they are artists but they have greater name recognition by the panels. These grants aren't huge, usually about $5,000 but the professors make a lot more than that and the artists, as a rule, are usually waitressing and bar-tending to support their art. Very unfair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-5823492015923117112012-10-22T14:18:11.189-04:002012-10-22T14:18:11.189-04:00You bring up some interesting points. I guess I ne...You bring up some interesting points. I guess I never really thought about it before. One reason I love your blog! You always bring up good food for thought.<br /><br />I have been a painter since the early 70's and have never applied for a grant though. I probably should have. Just too lazy I guess..........Roberta Warshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09869094383053871169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-326147676040130272012-10-22T12:07:06.814-04:002012-10-22T12:07:06.814-04:00How are you defining "need based grants"...How are you defining "need based grants"? Seems to me that the grantor specifies the criteria for application. Then, it's perfectly appropriate for anyone to apply, so long as they do so honestly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-25480444012153366962012-10-22T11:56:12.273-04:002012-10-22T11:56:12.273-04:00Right now, I'm at "qualifies for welfare&...Right now, I'm at "qualifies for welfare" indigent...and I do believe that a problem a lot of artist in my position have is not knowing about the kinds of need-based grants you mention. <br /><br />Even the well-to-do artist has bills, student loans, etc., I guess.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723983220687093505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-78981111960520923632012-10-22T11:47:35.523-04:002012-10-22T11:47:35.523-04:00It has been many, many, many years since I last ap...It has been many, many, many years since I last applied for a grant. The few times I did apply, primarily because I found myself on shaky ground economically, I found the process arduous, extremely time consuming and never saw results. Perhaps I wasn't savvy about how to phrase my request or the letters of recommendation weren't sufficiently laudatory. Who knows. I simply wasn't Tamarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15820235952600662107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-16048001566783474582012-10-22T11:21:23.066-04:002012-10-22T11:21:23.066-04:00Thanks Joanne for this posting. Those artists who...Thanks Joanne for this posting. Those artists who have had the good fortune to be creating their works, having them shown and sold in blue chip galleries and having major museum exhibitions of their work - <br />What drives these people to compete with artists who have not had the opportunity to be part of that microcosm? As for the panels who make these selections, they know full well whose Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com