tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post3492021361413161271..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: Read Hrag on JerryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-12798288234588511352010-09-17T00:19:50.992-04:002010-09-17T00:19:50.992-04:00Anonymous--
Your comment would have more credibil...Anonymous--<br /><br />Your comment would have more credibility if you were not anonymous. It's easy to bash critics and bloggers if you don't have to identify yourself. In any case you're a little late with this comment; the post is from April 2009.<br /><br />But I'm game. I'll reply. I don't know Jerry personally, but he has helped to flatten the hierarchy from the top Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-11418926529906297312010-09-16T19:44:32.757-04:002010-09-16T19:44:32.757-04:00Saltz is a relic and the only reason you see so ma...Saltz is a relic and the only reason you see so many people supporting him is because they pray he will look at their work. The same goes for Winkleman and a number of other high profile people who use the internet. <br /><br />Who tells us what art is good? A handful of relics who are paid to write for art magazines which happen to make big bucks from ads that art galleries buy. So it is no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-88804660180470678782009-05-02T15:38:00.000-04:002009-05-02T15:38:00.000-04:00Joanne, I did qualify the statement with "hon...Joanne, I did qualify the statement with "honest & notable exceptions."tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651605575992543944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-11590451351080814102009-05-02T14:44:00.000-04:002009-05-02T14:44:00.000-04:00Tony,
Is your comment specific to Jerry?Tony,<br />Is your comment specific to Jerry?Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-80631959482306341902009-05-02T11:43:00.000-04:002009-05-02T11:43:00.000-04:00Saw Jerry Saltz at University of MN several months...Saw Jerry Saltz at University of MN several months ago. My favorite take-away from the talk was his advice to the young: "Be skeptical, not cynical." Bravo!kim matthewshttp://www.kimmatthewsart.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-83211338504482748292009-05-01T11:31:00.000-04:002009-05-01T11:31:00.000-04:00Those who can do,
Those who can't
Become exper...Those who can do,<br />Those who can't<br />Become experts.<br /><br />Wild generalisation, with honest & notable exceptions, but when reputation & ego are to the fore it is inevitable that medicrity will rise to the surface.tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651605575992543944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-21920052582300313872009-04-30T18:52:00.000-04:002009-04-30T18:52:00.000-04:00Saltz said he included himself in the "older criti...Saltz said he included himself in the "older critic" category. He was so self-deprecating during the lecture it was kind of adorable.Hraghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02777822271789999167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-3146970702863131682009-04-30T16:22:00.000-04:002009-04-30T16:22:00.000-04:00Art,
I think Saltz was pointing to dry, overly th...Art,<br /><br />I think Saltz was pointing to dry, overly theoretical criticism. Vartanian described in in his report this way: "One problem with the art world, according to Saltz, is the plethora of over-academicized curators and critics that favor 'late late late late conceptualism.' " <br /><br />Who wouldn't want more good, accessible criticism? Again, without actually knowing the guy, it Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-70203840701153364652009-04-30T16:02:00.000-04:002009-04-30T16:02:00.000-04:00Joanne,
I happen to love Salt'z writing as well-...Joanne, <br /><br />I happen to love Salt'z writing as well--but I took his criticism of the art world as one that ought to be less full of criticism and more of good art in general, and I meant to question what his role-inherently influential due his position- should be. Or anyone's would be if the boats are sinking..<br /><br />But you're right to point out that 'older' is not to the point the Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615345242334094697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-14526318003215646982009-04-30T14:40:00.000-04:002009-04-30T14:40:00.000-04:00When I can't understand a work of art visually I n...When I can't understand a work of art visually I never find satisfaction reading dry, wordy criticism as it meanders in historic directions trying to explain it. <br /><br />Too in the know, such a small circle too boring. Do more than a handful of people even read the stuff? When was the last time you read Artforum cover to cover?Stephanie Sachshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377131627540380362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-11377358839621911542009-04-30T12:01:00.000-04:002009-04-30T12:01:00.000-04:00Art,
I didn't attend the conference, either, so ...Art, <br /><br />I didn't attend the conference, either, so I know only what I have read in Hrag's report.<br /><br />But I can respond to your first comment: You're being ageist if you think that being "older, established" automatically puts one in a particular category. Saltz--and I know him only through his writing (and, yes, I'm one of his 4,200 Facebook friends--is passionate about art and Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-30329423373959096072009-04-30T10:51:00.000-04:002009-04-30T10:51:00.000-04:00Considering how crowded it was I'm not so sad to h...Considering how crowded it was I'm not so sad to have missed it, but Jerry Saltz is one of my favorite critics to read. <br /><br />A)Being an older, established critic though, isn't he part of the problem he points out?<br /><br />B)Sounds like Saltz, unlike some in his field, anticipates and would like Artprize's voting structure that excludes curators and experts?Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615345242334094697noreply@blogger.com