tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post4462875595815875620..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: Marketing Mondays: Bad AdviceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-23651056354435633992012-09-29T16:46:17.619-04:002012-09-29T16:46:17.619-04:00I was told to give up painting and become a graphi...I was told to give up painting and become a graphic artist when they dropped the painting program at my first undergrad college. Instead I gave up my scholarship and transferred. Jesshttp://www.jesscross.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-71532863110579709162012-02-05T18:49:40.845-05:002012-02-05T18:49:40.845-05:00I was taken aback by a teacher in my first year of...I was taken aback by a teacher in my first year of university who proclaimed one had to be suicidally depressed in order to paint anything with any gravitas. Then he proceeded to try to bring his students to that state of mind.<br /><br />More recently, when I set to the task of making a will and facing the legal complexity of setting up an artist's estate, my mother suggested that it would Skyhttp://www.skypape.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-21401010545536319362011-11-30T23:29:19.441-05:002011-11-30T23:29:19.441-05:00Too much to mention. Great read! Thank you!Too much to mention. Great read! Thank you!Kristie Kosmideshttp://www.kfkart.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-24283143436625479122011-09-19T19:53:01.767-04:002011-09-19T19:53:01.767-04:00I was told only recently to give up championing nu...I was told only recently to give up championing nude art, freedom of expression and condemning censorship, that I should concentrate on my own work and leave the bigger issues for others.<br />Well, not one week later I received a very prestigious panel invitation due to my cause! It's also brought me more traffic than anything else, and a number of loyal collectors.Jennie Rosenbaumhttp://www.jennierosenbaum.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-82645527638878768702011-08-30T12:23:23.623-04:002011-08-30T12:23:23.623-04:00I was told over and over that art is a bad investm...I was told over and over that art is a bad investment. Maybe for a stock broker or banker or your average joe this is true. Best advice for artists: invest in what you know. If you are an artist start a serious collection early and keep building. Trade as much as possible and spend what you can. Always ask for an artist discount from a gallery and be ready to give one. It is a great investment inMark Castatorhttp://www.markcastator.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-88440198430938548702011-07-13T14:21:02.053-04:002011-07-13T14:21:02.053-04:00worst advice i ever got was from my ex-husband, he...worst advice i ever got was from my ex-husband, he told me numerous times that art should be a hobby and that i needed to find a "real job" because art would never be fulfilling or pay the bills.Emily Rosehttp://www.emilyrosetheartist.conoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-83166896566829284312011-04-25T23:55:53.512-04:002011-04-25T23:55:53.512-04:00Just weird, incredibly personal choices like, &quo...Just weird, incredibly personal choices like, "I'm not gonna like any painting with blue in it (?!)" and "Text in a painting in any form never works." <br /><br />To be fair, some good pieces of advice from the same advice-dispenser included, "Avoid designer colors" and "Take something simple and complicate it." Okay, that last one is kinda cryptic, Julianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-8321545168358701412011-04-14T11:08:34.690-04:002011-04-14T11:08:34.690-04:00A teacher I otherwise greatly admired and respecte...A teacher I otherwise greatly admired and respected told me in my final semester of art school, "Don't go to grad school. You don't need that. Just get a job in a factory and paint."Tom Bennettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-58868142697111890442011-04-12T00:02:10.759-04:002011-04-12T00:02:10.759-04:00After my first year at Queens College NYC grad sch...After my first year at Queens College NYC grad school, while finally creating work that felt like it came authentically from my female self and vision,I was told by the all male grad "committee" that I was not a serious artist, that I should leave, that I should "go have babies and teach grade school." (!) I did eventually have a child, I did teach art to all ages, and I Marilynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11282566681556526744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-4842912327000713592011-04-07T20:06:19.622-04:002011-04-07T20:06:19.622-04:00Oh I am so happy to read Eva's and Basha Mon&#...Oh I am so happy to read Eva's and Basha Mon's comments about studying with Rudolf Baranik, an abstract painter who taught at the Art Students League of New York (and other schools). He was wise and had a fabulously good eye for design ideas. I had a number of good teachers, but his were the only comments I wrote down word for word.<br /><br />As for bad advice, two artists (one famous, Philip Kochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05191070779177407750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-57651409397034700842011-04-07T15:35:44.429-04:002011-04-07T15:35:44.429-04:00In my second year at art school I was told that it...In my second year at art school I was told that it was not enough to simply want to paint the figure, there had to be a concept behind it! and that there was no place for life models in a modern art school! oh, and that painting was dead! This was in a well established Scottish art school!!!!!Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17090358721382052515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-82421467669410003892011-04-07T02:11:36.295-04:002011-04-07T02:11:36.295-04:00Here's a good one: "Don't paint aroun...Here's a good one: "Don't paint around the image; paint the background in first and then paint the image over it." Sounded like a Bob Ross TV painting lesson to me!LM Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507596492527966293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-26481460532437663292011-04-06T13:49:47.619-04:002011-04-06T13:49:47.619-04:00When I was an 18 year old in beginning litho class...When I was an 18 year old in beginning litho class, my professor was a master printer. He told great stories of the famous artists with whom he worked out on Long Island. One day, the professor carefully examined a stone I was inking-up then proclaimed " It needs a tannic etch right away". I ignored my beginner's sense that an etch on this lightly inked stone was not a smart move marcosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-29861162475267353182011-04-06T12:29:48.282-04:002011-04-06T12:29:48.282-04:00I could add a lot of bad advice to this conversati...I could add a lot of bad advice to this conversation, but I would also like to take the opportunity to recognize someone who helped me. To add to Bascha Mon in particular - I also had Rudolf Baranik as a teacher. He was so supportive, so wise! - during a time when my other teacher at the League gave me every example of bad advice possible (Like "You... just ... can't... DO.... that"Evahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526963554623770078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-31434121506277449392011-04-06T09:08:06.021-04:002011-04-06T09:08:06.021-04:00Thanks Joanne, this is a fun topic but also incred...Thanks Joanne, this is a fun topic but also incredibly useful for an emerging artist just finishing up with art school, like myself. I definitely can relate to many of the comments and am glad to see that they are under the category of 'bad' advice. In my first painting class I was on the receiving of a lot of it. In the end I guess I used bad advice for good motivation.Jessica Mathewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02605251127886757100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-1727477321394123452011-04-05T12:48:58.049-04:002011-04-05T12:48:58.049-04:00worst advice: just hearing the word "never&qu...worst advice: just hearing the word "never" starts me off in that very particular direction, a kind of contrarien attitude -- so maybe the worst advice is the best? great question, interesting reading!Kelly M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07281523503121981821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-49253951973143575102011-04-05T12:48:28.798-04:002011-04-05T12:48:28.798-04:00I had an art professor tell me to never sign my wo...I had an art professor tell me to never sign my work... or if I did, that I needed to sign on the back. This was the way she liked to sign her work, but I think that should be up to the individual artist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-33756074653363842272011-04-04T19:20:47.412-04:002011-04-04T19:20:47.412-04:00I was a little "older" when I attempted ...I was a little "older" when I attempted art school at the senescent age of 25. This lasted less than one semester during which I had the unpleasant experience of watching a painting teacher kick his foot through a student's canvas by way of critique. Now, it's possible that I overvalue my own efforts, but I would never ever allow such a thing to happen to me. I quit for other lxvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02963563534181925332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-87204902540628003532011-04-04T15:50:43.726-04:002011-04-04T15:50:43.726-04:00Well, as a prospective student I was told to "...Well, as a prospective student I was told to "forget it" as a mother of 2 children I couldn't possibly be a serious artist.<br />Of course, I went on and became a serious artist. <br />But some years ago in the search for a NY gallery 2 dealers told me that if I didn't live in NYC they wouldn't even consider me. Now suggesting that one not have children and move to NY are Bascha Monnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-39673916622326246462011-04-04T14:49:28.722-04:002011-04-04T14:49:28.722-04:00I realize, reading this post, that I received my w...I realize, reading this post, that I received my worst piece of advice yesterday! I was discussing with a friend (also in the arts) about a few disappointments with sales lately, and she said I should "lighten up" my work and "make it more viewer-friendly", that I should "find out what people like and do that". I admit I was a bit crushed by this until just now, whenSarahhttp://www.sarahgee.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-12126270978392659752011-04-04T14:03:08.169-04:002011-04-04T14:03:08.169-04:00I don't know if it's bad advice (since the...I don't know if it's bad advice (since they are not wrong) or not, but if one more person tells me I should sell my work at an art fair or etsy, i'm going to go postal!<br />First, I LOVE art fairs but don't want to pay major $ to put my encaustic work in the sweltering sun and heat and second, I don't know if I'm comfortable shipping my work yet via etsy (i site I also Firehead4https://www.blogger.com/profile/04720216748246248557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-51423725809045844832011-04-04T13:21:42.271-04:002011-04-04T13:21:42.271-04:00In a grad school critique, I was asked, "Who...In a grad school critique, I was asked, "Whose work are you looking at?" After responding, both professors said, "Well your work doesn't look anything like their work....make your work look like their work." Not taking that advice was easy.Caleb Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06031180835995427786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-62007464406171101562011-04-04T12:49:23.527-04:002011-04-04T12:49:23.527-04:00Gwen,
Thanks for this link. Good advice is always ...Gwen,<br />Thanks for this link. Good advice is always welcome.<br /><br />But there there is a place to identify the bad advice we have been given; it allows us to make comparisons between the good advice we have received (or given, a link to which is at the start of the blog post)and the unhelpful stuff that has been dispensed over the years. Art professors have a particular responsibility to Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-88292865018419796612011-04-04T12:05:32.323-04:002011-04-04T12:05:32.323-04:00Joanne, In keeping with your theme of Bad Advice I...Joanne, In keeping with your theme of Bad Advice I came across this in my blog readings this morning. http://upliketoast.blogspot.com/2011/03/youtube-video-player.html<br /><br />Don't know if it a letter like this from Sol to Eva exists. However, isn't this the kind of advice that would be more beneficial to any artist instead of the "bad advice" examples presented here? <br />Gwendolyn Plunketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16665457019924209613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-4553962648409184622011-04-04T11:21:06.312-04:002011-04-04T11:21:06.312-04:00Oh, such interesting comments:
. Hamlett, good to ...Oh, such interesting comments:<br />. Hamlett, good to hear from you here on the blog. If we can take Tony's bad literal advice and turn it metaphorical, the idea of not being afraid of a dealer is a good one. We are the other side of their equation; we are colleagues and equals. (At least I hope that's what he meant!)<br />. Scarlett, the "ghetto" issue is one I've touched Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.com