tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post6162216796303178950..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: Marketing Mondays: A Curator is MissingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-25514619830253143752015-08-21T14:00:12.165-04:002015-08-21T14:00:12.165-04:00And what about a curator who constantly includes h...And what about a curator who constantly includes his own work in the shows he curates?I know one of those all too well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-2016986828759372452012-05-25T19:07:25.089-04:002012-05-25T19:07:25.089-04:00I've always felt that curators' names shou...I've always felt that curators' names should be listed on resumes but against my better judgement left them out, following the "wisdom" of various art marketing books. Looks like I wasn't alone in following wrongheaded advice. Thanks for straightening us out.Peg Gradyhttp://www.peggradyart.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-81580396988285976172012-05-22T23:37:56.250-04:002012-05-22T23:37:56.250-04:00Good point, Joanne. I didn't think of that - e...Good point, Joanne. I didn't think of that - especially that the juror wouldn't necessarily select any of the artists chosen from a given pool of entries. Thanks for enlightening me. I always appreciate your info and wisdom.Diane McGregorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02909595687636606365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-63287059498895439312012-05-22T22:55:05.103-04:002012-05-22T22:55:05.103-04:00Diane,
You are mixing apples and oranges, and I d...Diane,<br /><br />You are mixing apples and oranges, and I don't think that's a good idea. A juror selects from a pool of submissions--many being works s/he would never select under different circumstances. S/he creates a show from the best of what comes in. Describing a juried show as "curated" diminishes the curatorial process, though I can see that it would elevate the juriedJoanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-28387397643899580602012-05-22T21:09:48.016-04:002012-05-22T21:09:48.016-04:00I use the phrase "curated by" even if th...I use the phrase "curated by" even if the show is a juried show; technically, all shows are carefully selected and "curated."Diane McGregorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02909595687636606365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-28135032119761356332012-05-22T15:43:17.467-04:002012-05-22T15:43:17.467-04:00Allen, you have a right to express your opinion, b...Allen, you have a right to express your opinion, but I have to say that a curator reading your comment might put you on the chip-on-the-shoulder possibly-difficult-to-work-with list. I'm not saying this as a criticism, but just so you know what impression you're giving.Oriane Stenderhttp://orianestender.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-723307212602850512012-05-22T08:22:07.766-04:002012-05-22T08:22:07.766-04:00Good one, Joanne. This one raises my hackles. I ha...Good one, Joanne. This one raises my hackles. I had to sleep on it before making a comment. <br /><br />As purveyors of taste and controllers of artist’s lives, curators have a spotty reputation. The fact that some keep “shit lists” is no surprise to me. I keep a shit list of curators. Of course, I must be very secretive about that, because if they learned of my list, I’d never get a show in thisAllen C. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07718519218496854299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-1816408897984057222012-05-21T22:00:16.280-04:002012-05-21T22:00:16.280-04:00I was also told by someone in a class that address...I was also told by someone in a class that addressed artists' documents that including the names of curators on my resume was not professional so I took them off. I'm glad that you posted this because you make perfect sense - as usual - and now I'm going to put them back on. <br /><br />It seems to me that including important jurors would also be OK.<br /><br />As someone who has Nancy Natalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325421420384484035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-90104126956880103742012-05-21T21:49:59.454-04:002012-05-21T21:49:59.454-04:00A very timely post...
I recently curated an exhib...A very timely post...<br /><br />I recently curated an exhibition, admittedly in a place that I knew was problematic in terms of how many people would actually see the exhibit and how much, if any, press I could stir up for it...but, I did go to the trouble of hiring an essayist, making sure there was a website for the show, etc., etc. I felt I did everything humanly possible to leave a record Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-51081836378339589072012-05-21T18:55:41.556-04:002012-05-21T18:55:41.556-04:00Thank you for your pearls of wisdom Joanne, and fo...Thank you for your pearls of wisdom Joanne, and for starting that interesting conversation. I really appreciate everyone's comments regarding this matter. <br /><br />Your blog is so helpful for emerging artists like myself. I am so thankful for your generosity in sharing your knowledge.Jannahttp://www.jannamaria.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-62563432496304204402012-05-21T17:34:37.860-04:002012-05-21T17:34:37.860-04:00Maritza,
Your comment and a FB thread I've be...Maritza,<br /><br />Your comment and a FB thread I've been following prompted me to post an addendum to the original post. <br /><br />As for credentials, I don't think they're necessary. You're singing to the choir.Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-91141841789345824122012-05-21T16:28:02.821-04:002012-05-21T16:28:02.821-04:00I was also advised by an arts professional to leav...I was also advised by an arts professional to leave off names for juried shows; I then carried that over to curated shows once I was included in those exhibitions. In addition, I was in one show that was "un-curated" (long story), but it was a pivotal moment for me, so I have included that in my resume. In that case, I've been concerned about how it gives un-earned credit for being Maritzahttp://www.maritzaruizkim.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-73941053701723501172012-05-21T13:38:02.711-04:002012-05-21T13:38:02.711-04:00Rounder: Brag! Brag!
Donna: In terms of crediting...Rounder: Brag! Brag!<br /><br />Donna: In terms of crediting, I look to see how the exhibition is credited and/or promoted by the institution. If a museum show notes that it has been curated by a museum curator there, by all means put it on. (Also, I wouldn't assume a curatorial given. There are often several curators, so different curators within the institution may be working on different Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-78204687918734583422012-05-21T12:16:38.235-04:002012-05-21T12:16:38.235-04:00Not to brag, I list my jurors and curators on my C...Not to brag, I list my jurors and curators on my CV.Rounder Studio Stuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987656040331096764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-57308779387912307452012-05-21T11:51:19.981-04:002012-05-21T11:51:19.981-04:00Hmm. After reading this post I took a look at my r...Hmm. After reading this post I took a look at my resume. I have credited maybe half the curators. I think how detailed one's resume is should be customized for the context. On your website, you could list everything, every show, every venue including curator, etc. But if you're sending out a resume (even electronically), the resume shouldn't be so long and detailed that the reader'Oriane Stenderhttp://orianestender.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-61716624458164778892012-05-21T11:42:32.862-04:002012-05-21T11:42:32.862-04:00Like others here, I was misguided in thinking that...Like others here, I was misguided in thinking that including the name of the curator was either not necessary, or somehow made the resume look less professional. I hope to remedy this without the list looking too wordy. What about museum shows, that are curated by the museum's curator? Should their name be included, or is it understood and extraneous to list their name? Thanks Joanne.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11114670968145057571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-45613773511014746792012-05-21T11:16:38.586-04:002012-05-21T11:16:38.586-04:00Wonderful post, as always!Wonderful post, as always!annell4https://www.blogger.com/profile/07629830133868270690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-89571623460348736312012-05-21T11:04:20.449-04:002012-05-21T11:04:20.449-04:00I used to include the curators' names on my re...I used to include the curators' names on my resume but was then advised by an "art coach"--who teaches at a local well-respected art school and offers classes advising artists how to write their statements, resumes, and other print material--to leave them off. I followed her advise but now it sounds as if I should put them back on. <br /><br />As for curating oneself into shows, I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-66576271973101019372012-05-21T10:52:15.058-04:002012-05-21T10:52:15.058-04:00Another point here is how venues are listed. If t...Another point here is how venues are listed. If the show is a juried show, then it should be listed as such along with the curator's name. There is a very big difference between having work selected from a pre arranged pool of artists, say from some sort of artist collective (which the curator did not select) for exhibition. In this scenario, the curator is paid a fee to select what they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-62821394993711112192012-05-21T10:41:33.652-04:002012-05-21T10:41:33.652-04:00I had no idea. Okay then, moving forward that'...I had no idea. Okay then, moving forward that's what I will do. Thank you!Christinehttp://www.christineaaron.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-69279513365435646002012-05-21T10:31:24.755-04:002012-05-21T10:31:24.755-04:00Anonymous gallery person: Thank you for weighing i...Anonymous gallery person: Thank you for weighing in. This is exactly the kind of information artists should be aware of. (And it ties into one of the underlying themes of these MM posts: We are in this together.)<br /><br />Christine: In my opinion, the curator's name should be right there next to the title. A hotlink is great, but if a show has a title and a curator, include both. (Listing Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-39943090132044263062012-05-21T10:20:49.881-04:002012-05-21T10:20:49.881-04:00It's not just curators, galleries maintain lis...It's not just curators, galleries maintain lists of artists they will no longer work with too.<br /><br />For the non-profit gallery I work for, the worst offense an artist can make is to not be interested in what the gallery is doing.<br />If chosen for a group show, it is expected that the artist will respect all deadlines. They will attend the opening and greet the curator and staff. That Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-32891121640963373712012-05-21T10:20:17.534-04:002012-05-21T10:20:17.534-04:00Zoe:
I like your concept of "everyone wins&q...Zoe: <br />I like your concept of "everyone wins". The curator with the "shit list" has been curating for well over 20 years. If we assume that the curator has had this conversation with artists and that some still "forget" to acknowledge or take the curatorial effort for granted, we would be correct.<br /><br />Anonymous: You're reading selectively. Of course weJoanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-10581673863486914752012-05-21T10:08:47.108-04:002012-05-21T10:08:47.108-04:00I always include the jurors and curators names on ...I always include the jurors and curators names on my resume. When I send out e-vites I usually list the exhibits followed by a hotlink to info about the show which references the jurors and curators. Are you saying that in the body of the e-vite, when listing several shows in which we have work, we should also be listing the curators/jurors? I thought by including a hotlink that it referenced Christinehttp://www.christineaaron.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-54195656079110507322012-05-21T09:54:27.029-04:002012-05-21T09:54:27.029-04:00I'm confused. If's it OK to create opportu...I'm confused. If's it OK to create opportunities for yourself as an artist, but it is not OK to curate yourself into the shows you are creating for yourself, then what do you do to move your career forward?<br /><br />Isn't there a point that you just have to say "I'm doing this anyway," despite what the "art profesionals" say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com