tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post6614253813766704015..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: The Women, Part 2: The Female Gaze: Women Look at Women at Cheim & ReadUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-24081535738546190582009-08-07T15:37:51.637-04:002009-08-07T15:37:51.637-04:00fabulous!!fabulous!!Ian MacLeodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12156358530437628328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-10570481466799795922009-08-06T20:28:21.866-04:002009-08-06T20:28:21.866-04:00I totally agree with you on Wack - such an amazing...I totally agree with you on Wack - such an amazing and important show, I loved it and was really energized by it. The difference, I think: it attempted to document a bona fide art movement of artists who had more in common than gender.jen daltonhttp://www.jenniferdalton.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-9408362458149879842009-08-06T12:35:40.560-04:002009-08-06T12:35:40.560-04:00Jen,
So let's talk in September. I look forwa...Jen,<br /><br />So let's talk in September. I look forward to it. <br /><br />Re the all-women shows: In general, I don't disagree with you. I just happened to like this one. (And Wack at PS 1last year, because it was a crucial historial show.)<br /><br />Re the chip: Hold onto it. It's an energy source. Political statements don't get fueled by complacency. The trick is to place Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-38677070999026818642009-08-06T10:19:18.855-04:002009-08-06T10:19:18.855-04:00Yes, I really did not intend to criticize cheim &a...Yes, I really did not intend to criticize cheim & read in general. 1/3 women is an impressive percentage at a blue-chip gallery (and, for that matter, a percentage that many "emerging" galleries don't seem to even aspire to). And gender aside, they show really great work period.<br /><br />But this show in particular gets my goat because it was billed by the gallery as "jen daltonhttp://www.jenniferdalton.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-62561755364274964842009-08-05T23:26:28.302-04:002009-08-05T23:26:28.302-04:00Compliments on the Bourgeois piece. That's not...Compliments on the Bourgeois piece. That's not necessarily how I see things as a man, yet I can't help but feel like some kind of a brutish domineering ogre when I look at the piece. <br /><br />I'm not sure if I'm supposed to have this response, but it certainly makes me reconsider my "maleness" as I'm sure it makes a women consider her own gendered viewpoint.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-61905805313835171692009-08-05T21:07:08.023-04:002009-08-05T21:07:08.023-04:00Jen,
Thanks for commenting. I am a fan of your wo...Jen,<br /><br />Thanks for commenting. I am a fan of your work, and in fact, I'd like to do an interview with you for the blog one day soon. (How's that for hitting you up while you're captive?) You are certainly on top of issues that relate to sexism.<br /><br />I hear your concerns. If the gallery were one that rarely showed women, I would feel differently. But Cheim and Reid Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-13670132676544155382009-08-05T20:49:44.346-04:002009-08-05T20:49:44.346-04:00Hi Joanne, I'm a fan (longtime listener, first...Hi Joanne, I'm a fan (longtime listener, first-time caller, etc.) For what it is, this is an impressive show, but I can't really see it as a positive step for women artists, overall. Women-on-women exhibitions always make me uncomfortable. They are a way for the art world to have it both ways: I'll give you ladies your own show (in august, even) if you promise to depict everyone'sjen daltonhttp://www.jenniferdalton.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-57738720478382935622009-08-05T14:33:11.585-04:002009-08-05T14:33:11.585-04:00Steven,
Good to hear from you. Actually, I should...Steven, <br />Good to hear from you. Actually, I should have referred to you as my buddy, period, as we are also friends in real life.<br /><br />To add to your comment, which I agree with, it's likely that many of these pieces would not have been made by men. I'm thinking, for instance, of the works by Deborah Kass (well, unless Andy did it); Mickalene Thomas (the figure is a lovely Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-51171280562794218412009-08-05T11:16:09.936-04:002009-08-05T11:16:09.936-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Leiflethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08316153810618950672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-49821272628413361882009-08-05T10:16:06.139-04:002009-08-05T10:16:06.139-04:00Hi Joanne,
As always - a great post on this grea...Hi Joanne,<br /><br />As always - a great post on this great show -- you really convey the scope of the show. It's an interesting premise that probably warrants a major thesis by some ambitious and thoughtful grad student. While it may not be true of every piece, I think the most successful works in the show would indeed convey different meaning if done by a man -- and it's the success S.A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10133408897629306555noreply@blogger.com