tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post7526566225129131978..comments2024-03-03T15:01:00.402-05:00Comments on Joanne Mattera Art Blog: Marketing Mondays: AgeismUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-89175312793386338232014-03-31T11:56:58.979-04:002014-03-31T11:56:58.979-04:00I am writing about this now because I believe it&#...I am writing about this now because I believe it's also technically against the law and I am happy to comment because it's not something discussed often. Really people don't know about this until well, they are denied..I wrote some letters asking how it's possible to galleries and they just basically passed the buck. It's offensive and it's ageism for sure. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06988180506151618170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-17090633243658829462011-02-21T16:32:55.911-05:002011-02-21T16:32:55.911-05:00Although I already commented on this subject, I wo...Although I already commented on this subject, I would like to add something. I just wrote a narrative bio for the catalog for my forthcoming exhibit. The last line is ...."after 40 years of work, Bascha Mon is still exploring new ideas."<br />Why would anyone think that the creative juices dry up after 35 - did they not look at Picasso?<br />I must admit, tho, that I do not put dates Bascha Monhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13474010549840842938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-88002502087491570302010-11-24T06:26:48.523-05:002010-11-24T06:26:48.523-05:00A loooong time ago, when I was 25, I found a great...A loooong time ago, when I was 25, I found a great deal of opportunities for young artists in the 18 to 24 range. That particular co-horte have haunted me since. While I have changed disciplines and vanished from the scene once or twice, it is only recently that I have truly played in the playground that is 'emerging' artist. And lo and behold - it is yet again reserved for people fivelittlefrogletnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-44606882932141316672010-06-22T18:51:19.625-04:002010-06-22T18:51:19.625-04:00My 1st taste of the age/married/children discrimin...My 1st taste of the age/married/children discrimination was at the very beginning. I thought that I would want to go the the Studio School in the village. I brought in tons of heavy to carry and unusual work. Phillip Guston was very enthusiastic, but the only woman on the panel said that I couldn't come there because I was a mother of 2 kids and thus couldn't possiby be a serious artistBascha Monnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-24843644575882722412010-05-14T21:26:34.178-04:002010-05-14T21:26:34.178-04:00Sorry a little late on this, tending to the sick k...Sorry a little late on this, tending to the sick kid and the sick husband. So I have never cared about age, anyones age, I received my MFA when I was 26, I thought I was doing my best work........WRONG.......i was just starting out....I needed years and time still and I had to work a full time job to pay my loans. so I have always managed to stay painting but its has moved slow, it isn't Minkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07387999111934747454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-37199039808772505252010-05-12T05:07:50.272-04:002010-05-12T05:07:50.272-04:00Hi, I am following you site.
I am older art studen...Hi, I am following you site.<br />I am older art students, emerging artist, photographer. Having my health problem, so while helping my father's company and doing other stuff, I am eventually changing my career.<br /><br />I am Japanese, and opportunities are much less than other Western countries, or even China. And I just noticed many young artists showing works in galleries in Japan, and Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13090151155484948191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-18679320041074570862010-05-07T00:21:28.791-04:002010-05-07T00:21:28.791-04:00Randy,
This is funny. You've actually made Lou...Randy,<br />This is funny. You've actually made Louise Bourgeois too young! She's 99 (born 1911).<br />The thing about being so old is that it's OK if you have the kind of career she's had (though she didn't receive acclaim until she was in her 60s). Not for nothing is she the Matron Saint of Mid Career Artists everywhere.<br /><br />BTW, congrats on your solo at BromfieldJoanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-52332206815780588962010-05-06T22:39:57.918-04:002010-05-06T22:39:57.918-04:00I take my cues from Louise Bourgeouis, who at 93, ...I take my cues from Louise Bourgeouis, who at 93, still says she's learning...So, I'm not about to lie about my age or experience. What's the point? And yes, ageism is discrimination.<br /><br />thanks for the discussion, Randy GarberRandy Garberhttp://www.randygarber.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-36766271259281531932010-05-05T22:57:19.069-04:002010-05-05T22:57:19.069-04:00Am I the first 24-34 reader to weigh in on this di...Am I the first 24-34 reader to weigh in on this discussion? Come on, we've got to represent! <br /><br />It is interesting to read the comments and I do find age restrictions to be limiting to the artists and institutions that are setting these parameters. I am not finding that most galleries are willing to to take risks with younger artists. I am 28 and have been given the run-around by Caleb Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06031180835995427786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-29945504385643983422010-05-05T17:52:07.227-04:002010-05-05T17:52:07.227-04:00A middle aged friend of my sister took her work ar...A middle aged friend of my sister took her work around the galleries in New York with no luck. She gave her slides to her daughter who visited the same galleries later and was offered 3 shows. When she "came clean" about the work, the galleries were furious. At 68 my work is better than ever...nothing to do about it but keep doing the best work I can...although some part of me loves Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04521607455914073714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-45580876861967810872010-05-05T08:26:11.382-04:002010-05-05T08:26:11.382-04:00When I first got out of art school in the 70's...When I first got out of art school in the 70's, it seemed common wisdom that you needed some years to develop your mature work, and I always felt "too young" to approach galleries. Now it feels like the tides have turned and I often feel "too old" to approach galleries, but feel like my work is much better than ever.<br /><br />I have a friend who was told that her work Adria Archhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01065405163407738649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-62321138309745025312010-05-04T20:46:37.461-04:002010-05-04T20:46:37.461-04:00Nancy, this is great about Alice deBoton ! It'...Nancy, this is great about Alice deBoton ! It's sort of like <i>my</i> fantasy: to live out my old age, when I can't see to paint anymore, just throwing pots. Maybe I wouldn't even fire them, just to keep making new forms. I'm so process oriented that I can't imagine greater bliss. It would give me something to wake up for every morning. Then why the heck am I still painting?LXVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18396149640519096992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-23499164990393880362010-05-04T19:23:48.964-04:002010-05-04T19:23:48.964-04:00Youth schmouth. I posted a photo on my blog of an ...Youth schmouth. I posted a photo on my blog of an artist named Alice deBoton who recently passed away at the age of 103. She worked in many mediums all her fascinating life and took up encaustic in her 70s. The photo shows her with a blowtorch in one hand and an encaustic painting in the other. Now that's something to aspire to! (artinthestudio.blogspot.com)Nancy Natalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325421420384484035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-34751082281537514042010-05-04T15:52:49.675-04:002010-05-04T15:52:49.675-04:00Hearing so many comments from artists who are hitt...Hearing so many comments from artists who are hitting brick walls makes me that an entrepreneur with some deep pockets and a keen sense of niche could greate a fabulous gallery that shows the work of artists over 45 or 50. Many collectors are also over 50, so there would seem to be a natural affinity.<br /><br />All you enrepreneurs out there, here's an offer: Open a gallery, a serious Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-26264370243531946382010-05-04T08:39:55.737-04:002010-05-04T08:39:55.737-04:00This is a frustration that goes with being a '...This is a frustration that goes with being a 'late bloomer' as an artist. I raised my family first and when I returned to school to get my BFA and then my MFA I felt behind the tide before I even had a chance to get out and surf! Scholarships, exhibition opportunities, galleries-many often had a cut of age of 35 which left me hanging. I sometimes feel I am chastised for the fact that I It's So Worth Ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06649969570432908088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-45915076916101969312010-05-04T08:37:38.197-04:002010-05-04T08:37:38.197-04:00Anon 12:59,
I did write about the MFA last year. L...Anon 12:59,<br />I did write about the MFA last year. Link below. The comments tell the story--some see it as having been eminently usefeul; others see it as a ripoff. There's no one answer here. <br /><br />Link below, or go to the sidebar and scroll down to "The MFA" on Marketing Mondays 2009. <br /><br />http://joannemattera.blogspot.com/2006/05/marketing-mondays-mfa.htmlJoanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-80817191489311898552010-05-04T04:04:28.940-04:002010-05-04T04:04:28.940-04:00There is under 30 talent out there, but the Younge...There is under 30 talent out there, but the Younger Than Jesus show didn't find it. It's the only time I felt ripped off paying to see a museum show.<br />If youth is the measuring stick, all that guarantees is lack of experience, not usually a valuable asset except in kindergarten art shows.<br />As for arbitrary criteria, how about a more original novelty, like left handed artists, Hylla Evanshttp://www.EvansEncaustics.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-73128444879200529382010-05-04T00:59:57.457-04:002010-05-04T00:59:57.457-04:00Sadly some of the local art institutions support t...Sadly some of the local art institutions support this attitude wholeheartedly! I work with several grads privately (outside the institution) and I am shocked at what their professors say to them in "critique".<br />"You're painting like an old lady" or<br />"This looks like an old lady abstractionist" etc etc. School will remain unnamed. <br />If my professor Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-77367951345374044802010-05-04T00:27:11.064-04:002010-05-04T00:27:11.064-04:00I think Mariandioguardi and Franklin are onto some...I think Mariandioguardi and Franklin are onto something, especially when you consider the pure logic of the situation (or lack thereof). This is not just about art or even primarily about art, but about cashing in on the western world's current obsession with celebrity. The next best thing to being a celebrity is being a celebrity maker.andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16364011769128646998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-44904291094873849862010-05-03T22:43:00.555-04:002010-05-03T22:43:00.555-04:00Imagine that only a dozen people on the planet cou...Imagine that only a dozen people on the planet could sing. We wouldn't care what they looked like - we would cherish and revere them. But as it happens, a lot of people can sing. Thanks to digital tools some of them can be made to sound much better than they really are. Consequently, it becomes possible for audiences to demand that they also dance, be 25 or so, and fill out the tops of Franklinhttp://einspruch.com/journal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-6521287615071314232010-05-03T20:04:56.672-04:002010-05-03T20:04:56.672-04:00@Bernard: Re "Younger than Jesus," Acros...@Bernard: Re "Younger than Jesus," Across the street, there was a counter show called "Older than Moses." I didn't attend the NuMu show. In fact, except for the Tomma Abts show, i have not been to the NuMu except to use the bathrooms, which are the best on the LES. I think their curatorial program leaves too much too be desired, and there are many better museums to Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-72155950023939924022010-05-03T19:57:55.229-04:002010-05-03T19:57:55.229-04:00So many interesting comments today. A few comments...So many interesting comments today. A few comments bach atcha:<br /><br />@Kesha: You ask "How does their current roster of 'mature' artists feel about their gallery's new direction?" Not thrilled, as you can imagine. <br /><br />@Sharon: Interesting that motherhood is not a career killer. That's good news. But I'll bet it's a time sucker unless the partner is Joanne Matterahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02564594823192456546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-42033701878900114122010-05-03T19:44:31.017-04:002010-05-03T19:44:31.017-04:00There IS a trend to scoop up emerging artists and ...There IS a trend to scoop up emerging artists and put a jet rocket to their career hoping to launch the next Damien Hirst.The galleries seem to also want very attractive and charismatic young artists apart from their work. I know a young artist just out of school whose work looks just like Alex Katz's (nothing really new there)who has been scooped up by a gallery "we want to make you a mariandioguardi.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963944767715466681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-60811806916441659172010-05-03T19:40:47.533-04:002010-05-03T19:40:47.533-04:00And Let's not forget the "Younger than Je...And Let's not forget the "Younger than Jesus" show that closed not too long ago at the New Museum. Artists' should've been picketing in the streets!Bernard Klevickashttp://www.bernardklevickas.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30832682.post-73310263800216079192010-05-03T19:29:36.776-04:002010-05-03T19:29:36.776-04:00Unfortunately an "under 35" cap is commo...Unfortunately an "under 35" cap is common on calls for artists, competitions and grants in Australia, especially in the government and community sector. While I understand it's an attempt to support new and upcoming artists, like others who have left comments on this topic, I'm frustrated by the assumption that age is an indicator of career length. Perhaps a better idea would beHorse Feathers Saddleryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06251161235228746935noreply@blogger.com