Yet when I step away from the associations, the cool geometric formality of each work invites closer viewing. In that light, it’s simply about what’s happening at the edge in relation to the rest of the field. Shape and color. And Schifano has a quirky, Truitt-like sense of color that maximizes her minimalism.
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Apparently I'm not alone in the door association. “It’s true, they kind of loom and cover the walls here,” allows Schifano. “I think I’ve been in a transitional space mentally for a while, and so maybe they keep me company, support me in this. I think I’ve envisioned my life changing, the world changing. The paintings in hindsight have been ways of keeping that desire going without necessarily conjuring up an answer. Then again, I so also just look at them and see what works, what doesn’t, what could come next in the series.
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“I couldn’t continue the series at one point because I was unwilling to see them as figurative. When I got over that, it all became easier.”
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I’m thinking about all of this as we’re talking. And we’re talking not so much about art but about ourselves—we have some commonalities: Italian American daughters, with language and familial connections to the Old Country; we’re of the same generation; and we both work reductively..
Perhaps because of the less-is-more sensibility, we're both neat. You can certainly see that here. "I can't seem to think straight unless their order in my space," says Schifano. "I sometimes rearrange the furniture as a way of clearing my head." I can dig it. .
At the opposite wall, shown above and below, there’s a work table with a freshly gessoed canvas the same distinctive size as the others. On the wall itself there are some small relief works: monochromatic panels whose space is bisected by a flat orange line that continues on to the wall.
I ask: "How much of you is a minimalist and how much is a conceptualist? How much of you is a painter and how much a sculptor?" Of course I don’t expect numbers, but I am curious to know how Schifano places herself in the scheme of things.
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“I think of myself as a painter primarily, who conceives of paintings as objects as much as illusions." she says. "I think I’ve come into my own in a reductive way. I’m now more interested in getting to essentials, in being direct and clear, saying what I can in as strong a way as possible while still being complex and sensitive. I have a strong analytical streak, so my working in an intuitive way as a painter—even while preconceiving my pieces more or less, I can keep my brain and gut in synch.”
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“I also like to look at other artists’ work: Ellsworth Kelly, Blinky Palermo, Stephen Westfall, Donald Judd, for example. Seeing all that stringent work feels supportive and jogs me into being brave enough to take more chances.”
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Schifano mentions a picture of her father—the man in the winter gear standing next to a large sculpture in the top right corner of the image above. “He’s almost 85 and still working on welded figure-size pieces after a long career in advertising. His favorite artist is Ellsworth Kelly. My mother, who was an art teacher, loves Barnett Newman. Good heritage, no?” Indeed.
I didn't want to take up all of Schifano's studio time on this afternoon. She works four days a week as a painting conservator, so studio time is precious. I thanked her (taking, with her good wishes, the rest of the salty chocolate bar she'd put out during our conversation). This is the view of the way out, below: A third elongated painting on the viewing wall and a cogent definition of space via the small wall/floor piece.
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Want to see more? Schifano will be part of a two-artist show at Blank Space in Manhattan (with Paige Williams), April 1-30.
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15 comments:
I really enjoyed this post and seeing Karen's work. Being oriented to the building added an unusual extra sense to reading for me. And I love that final photo!
Thank you for this post, Joanne. Karen has an extraordinary abilty to keep the work going perceptually after its completion - 'life after death', if you wish. Some would say that that is no great thing but when one uses such reductive means I believe it adds up to an achievement of the highest order & your text did it justice.
Excellent. Good stuff!
Great studio visit-thanks Joanne!!
This is what you call the "real deal". It's a pleasure to know Karen. The work she does is always about risk and inquiry to settle it there. I truly love the new body of work, and I'm glad that you, Joanne, found her... were lucky enough to organize a studio visit, and especially to record it to bring to your blog and share.
Complex simplicity at it's best!
Oh Wow I just love this - a great post - thanks so much!
I just saw the documentary about the art collectors Herb and Dorothy Vogel last night and it made me re-appreciate minimalism. Karen’s work fits right in!
But most interesting for me was the description of the studio. The way it is clear and, well, minimal. Mine is driving me crazy because it’s too small. Or I’ve got too much going on at the same time and no storage space. Joanne, have you done a Marketing Monday about studio space? It’s not really marketing, but I would love to hear about other artists studios.
Anon,
I haven't done a post about studio space, and probably won't, but there are several good blog posts on the topic. Lisa Pressman and Pam Farrell both have/had series on the topic, and Nancy Natale has a post about her studio space that's up now. Their URLs ae all on the sidebar of this blog.
Also, PS 1 has a series of virtual studio visits.
(I have a MM post on the Studio Visit coming later this month.)
Karen, your work looks amazing. What a great post. I really enjoyed it very much! x E
Thank you Joanne, What a treat to go for a virtual visit. I've got a bit of cabin fever in my own rat's nest lately and I am inspired to clear the decks after seeing your great pix. That is, after I finish the thirty-five thousand projects I've got going. Minimalist I will never be. But, as others here have remarked Karen Schifano's work and studio-style is admirable (Of course, we know she cleaned up for your visit).
Great visit, Karen & Joanne. Thanks for sharing it. I like Karen's new work a lot, and somehow those little maquettes really just get to me...
--ken weathersby
This is enlightening. Thank you, Joanne, for providing this type of accessibility to others' workspaces. This is more of a treat for me than I can express in words.
Even as informed artists, we are still conditioned, in a way, to make references. I think of it as an attempt to understand and relate.
Karen's maquettes really moved me with their small size and scale when shown next to much larger paintings.
Wonderful to see Karen's studio, provides an glimpse into her process, the spatiality of her thinking.
Very nicely done interview and write up. Thank you. I am getting it, slowly understanding minimalism. It has a way of getting one to the core.
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